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	<title>One-Eyed Panda's Journal &#187; Visas</title>
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		<title>China Visa Update</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 01:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week I attended an AmCham seminar on the new regulations for Chinese visas. I thought I&#8217;d share my notes with everyone so that you can all be informed about the new rules: There are no changes to the Z (work) visa procedure. These visas are converted into work and residency permits inside China upon [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week I attended an AmCham seminar on the new regulations for Chinese visas. I thought I&#8217;d share my notes with everyone so that you can all be informed about the new rules:</p>
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<li>There are no changes to the Z (work) visa procedure. These visas are converted into work and residency permits inside China upon entrance into the country.</li>
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<li>Currently people need to apply in their home countries for Chinese visas and cannot apply in Hong Kong (other third countries are currently okay at the moment including Macao). Only those with either HK work permits or HK ID can apply for visas in Hong Kong.</li>
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<li> Visa processing takes longer so you need to be prepared and apply in advance.</li>
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<li>For L (tourist) visas, you are required to have a copy of a hotel reservation a photocopy of a round-trip plan ticket.</li>
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<li>For F (business) visas, you are required to apply at the consulate/embassy in your country of residence. The consulates/embassies are only issuing 30-day single or double-entry visas. The following are the required documents: original letter from the Chinese government ministry; Chinese hotel reservation; photocopy of return plane tickets.</li>
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<li>F visas can be extended inside China only. If extended in Beijing they can only be extended to July 1st 2008. If extended in Shanghai, they can be extended for the standard 30 to 60 days and count as single entry (and supposedly beyond July 1st). Extensions take five working days and must be applied for in person.</li>
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<li>For the letter from the Chinese government ministry (usually the local foreign affairs office), this must be applied for by a locally registered company such as a WOFE or domestic Chinese company in the city where the person applying for the F visa intends to visit. IE if the person intends to visit Shanghai, the letter must be applied for by a company in Shanghai.</li>
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<li>Representative offices must apply through an agent such as FESCO to get the letter from the relevant ministry</li>
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<li>Those people who are in China for longer than 90 days continually or more than 180 days in a calendar year should apply to be on a Z visa, which would be changed to a residency permit inside China.</li>
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<li>F and L visas for senior managers can be changed to work and residence permits from inside China. Also all companies with capital over US$3 million can change F and L visas to work and residency permits for all employees. Representative offices also can’t apply directly for Z visas. They must apply for L or F visas and convert them to work and residency permits inside China.</li>
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<li>These regulations will most like last after the Olympics. The government is really cracking down on F visa holders who are actually residents inside China as they are really residents here, and should therefore be on residency and work permits and be paying taxes.</li>
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<p>I hope this clears things up for a lot of people.  J.  P.S. It&#8217;s the Labour Day holiday in China, so I&#8217;m not posting for this weekend. I may post a book review on<a href="http://www.lostlaowai.com" target="_blank"> Lost Laowai</a> though so please check there.  <em><strong></strong></em></p>
<p><em><strong>Update: </strong></em>Rich at All Roads Lead to China just posted a story that i<a href="http://www.allroadsleadtochina.com/index.php/2008/05/02/multiple-entry-chinese-visas-being-canceled-at-border/" target="_blank">t looks like some multi-entry F and L visas are being canceled.</a> He says the information is third hand but it is something worth watching.  <em><strong></strong></em></p>
<p><em><strong>Update II (May 12, 2008): </strong></em><a href="http://www.chinaherald.net/2008/05/confirmed-student-visas-not-prolonged.html" target="_blank">Student visas will not be extended during the Olympics</a>. People of African nationalities also seem to be having <a href="http://shanghaiist.com/2008/05/12/two_quick_visa.php" target="_blank">problems getting visas</a>.</p>
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		<title>The Great China Visa Debate</title>
		<link>http://oneeyedpandasjournal.com/2008/04/22/the-great-china-visa-debate/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Saturday morning while I was sitting in Starbucks a group of Laowais walked in and they were talking how they were all afraid that they were going to all be kicked out of China because they can&#8217;t renew their visas. Now from their conversation I could tell that this was an area they didn&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Saturday morning while I was sitting in Starbucks a group of Laowais walked in and they were talking how they were all afraid that they were going to all be kicked out of China because they can&#8217;t renew their visas. Now from their conversation I could tell that this was an area they didn&#8217;t have a lot of experience with (my company follows this issue closely as we advise people who are establishing their China operations for the first time so I have a bit more knowledge than the average person) but I wanted to go over and just tell them to stop over-reacting.</p>
<p>For those that don&#8217;t know the Chinese government has restricted the issuing of multiple entry F visas for business lengthened the minimum application processing time to four days and limited the issuing of visas in Hong Kong to only permanent residents of the SAR.</p>
<p>There has also been a lot of good coverage of this issue in blogs and the mainstream media. But as the above conversation shows a lot of people have become consumed by fear &#8212; just check out <a href="http://shanghaiist.com/2008/04/18/more_updates_on.php" target="_blank">this post on Shanghaiist about foreign students supposedly being expelled for the Olympics</a> &#8212; it turned out to be a false alarm. And that is throwing people into a tizzy.</p>
<p>As I mentioned to a reporter from the German business newspaper Handelsblatt yesterday the restrictions that are being put in place aren&#8217;t a catastrophe they are to deal with volume. Lots of people are expected to come to China for the Olympics so that means more visa applications hence the longer waiting times you&#8217;ve heard about. Many people travel to Hong Kong &#8212; since you don&#8217;t need a visa to get in there &#8212; and apply for China visas in HK. Too many people are doing that now for the foreign ministry office in HK to handle hence the regulations that foreigners who are not permanent residents of HK must apply for a China visa in their country of residence.</p>
<p>What that means is until the regulations return back to normal which is expected to be in September you need to plan ahead. If you are on a visa that requires you to renew it outside the country (ie anything other than a Z-class visa) arrange a trip home at the same time. You&#8217;re not going to be denied a visa as long as you&#8217;ve obeyed the laws here and aren&#8217;t a known pro-T1bet/F*G* protestor. You just can&#8217;t leave visa renewal to the last minute now.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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